Sin has been the downfall of mankind ever since the first man and woman sinned in the garden. All it took for Adam and Eve to sin was the first doubt/lie to be sown. The devil approached Eve in the garden and asked “Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” this was the first seed of doubt.
After Eve answered him the first lie ever told was spoken “Ye shall not surely die” then satan appealed to her temptations saying “For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”.
For the entire account you can read it here Genesis chapter 3
Notice satan told Eve you shall be like gods, and because they believed the lie they ate the fruit which God told them not to do and sin entered the world ever since and has been our downfall.
This lie continues on today as we see a world which rejects God, a world in which people indulge in sin, a world which prides itself on unrighteousness. As morals decline with each passing moment love dwindles away only to give rise to false love. A “love” that says “do what thou wilt”, not only that but also a world which claims there’s no absolutes.
In that statement alone we find contradiction and hypocrisy to claim “there are no absolutes” or “all truth is relative”. A claim as such in essence is making an absolute truth claim. Where mankind truly deviated and was lead astray was with the embrace of Atheism.
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I think it’s quite interesting when you start to look into the history of Atheism and it’s roots. It started in India during the Vedic age. The name is derived from the Vedas which comes from the Hindu text. It’s ironic Hinduism a religion with the most “gods” has any relation to a religion which rejects the idea of any deity.
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Atheism at Work
As Christians it’s normal to have Atheist upset at the notion of mentioning God, The Lord Jesus Christ, morals and sin. I wanted to take the time to look at some alarming responses from Atheist.
“As these ChristoTalibans sow? So should they reap. Here are a whole bunch more of your psychotic, ChristoTaliban Christian preachers of hate and death. All of them crying for the brutal murders of lgbts based on their bibles.
I wonder how Christians would feel if LGBTS had a book that said all Christians should be put to death, how fast Christians would call that hate speech?
Or I wonder how Christians would react if all LGBTS stated that as Christians want to do unto us? The same shall be done unto them, how fast you Christians would cry that LGBTS are persecuting you?
But as all these Christians sow? So should they reap and as they want to do unto lgbts? The same should be done unto them”—Anonymous Atheist
Atheist comment # 1 Ever since the attacks on 9/11 when planes flew into the WTC and Pentagon buildings the term Taliban has been tossed around. Nowadays if you disagree with someone you’re automatically labeled. In the case of this person they think all Christians are “ChristoTalibans”. I don’t understand how someone who doesn’t believe in God would try to quote from the Bible?
I guess by using this term they are trying to say that Christians are chopping people’s heads off, shooting people in the head and tossing their bodies in a ditch? In my response to this individual I said that as Christians we don’t hate anyone that includes individuals who identify as LGBT.
I went on to say that I don’t agree with the sin of homosexuality but that doesn’t mean I hate them, I desire for them to be saved the same as I have the desire to see a heterosexual saved. I’m not certain what kind of “Christians” this atheist has come across? I’ll be the first to say that anyone who claims to be a Christian and looks to inflict harm even to the point of death is not a Christian! Perhaps they think the Westboro Baptist cult are “Christians”?
“Again, you fool, telling a native American they should become a Christian? Is like telling a Jew to join the Nazi party or a black person to join the KKK” —Anonymous Atheist
Atheist comment # 2 This comment shows the lack of knowledge of what Christianity stands for. This individual keep on insisting that “Christians” were responsible for the Crusades and other atrocities which are attributed to the Roman Catholics. This is common between atheist and unbelievers in general in which try to place Christians in the same boat as Catholics.
No, Christians were not responsible for the Spanish Inquisition, sorry to break the news but Christians were persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church. The Pope at that time Pope Clement VII was against the people to own a personal copy of the Bible in english. The clergy wanted to remain in power by keeping the Holy Scriptures written in Latin, by doing so no lay person would be able to read God’s word without the church’s interpretation.
Praise be to God for men like William Tyndale who translated most of the Bible in English. He played a vital role in the production of the Authorised King James Bible first published in 1611. Tyndale while in a discussion with a clergyman who made this blasphemous statement “We had better be without God’s laws than the Pope’s.” responded saying:
William Tyndale
As I digress I’m not certain how telling anyone regardless of race would take offence to being told they should become a Christian. If we truly believe salvation is found only in the Lord Jesus Christ then wouldn’t we want others to come, taste and see that the Lord is good?!
Psalm 34:8 O taste and see that the LORD [is] good: blessed [is] the man [that] trusteth in him.
“Stop lying you fake Christian. Enjoy the same judgment you have given unto me and others”—Anonymous Atheist
This was in response to my comment “I love you and hope you don’t get the Coronavirus. God help you and your soul.”
Atheist comment # 3 In loving kindness we pray for those who are outside of the Ark (the Lord Jesus Christ). In this particular discussion I made reference of staying safe, praying this person would remain healthy from the Coronavirus. And in turn they felt the need to say “stop lying you fake Christian” as well as being hatful saying “enjoy the same judgement”.
I’m uncertain of what judgement this person is speaking of because I never declared judgement upon anyone. So how can this atheist say “Enjoy the same judgment you have given unto me and others”?
Just goes to show how depraved humans have become when you reject the God who made you. It brings a verse to my mind in Jeremiah.
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?
How true the word of God is which exposes the sinfulness of our hearts. We have to pray for atheist because while they may shake their little fist up to the sky. Wholeheartedly angry at the God they claim doesn’t exist which makes no sense.
We need to show these people who have been indoctrinated to believe that everything came from nothing, a scientific impossibility. May the Lord open their eyes and show them they were created in the image of God, and their lives do have meaning.
That their lives are not “star dust” that “evolution” is completely false, that abortion is murder; and that outside of God they have no basis for their moral standards. Anything outside of the existence of God is meaningless.
Mankind has been trying to be god ever since the downfall of man and the tragic fact is many have fallen for this lie of the devil. Souls are at stake and therefore we must speak the truth in love to these lost individuals.
Psalm 3:8 Salvation [belongeth] unto the LORD: thy blessing [is] upon thy people. Selah.
Whatsoever Things Are True 
“As morals decline with each passing moment”. Which morals are those? The ones that fight for human equality against the resisting religions?
The heart is an unreliable trust. When Hess swore in the entire Nazi party (which many, many clerics supported) he said, “ do not look to Adolph Hitler with your intellect, but believe in him with your hearts”. That turned out well. The heart is merely an impression of good intension, whether the process is reliable or not. Christianity has failed to meet its objectives and has often been the oppressor using this mode of operations.
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Hi Jim appreciate your comments and hope you’re doing well during this COVID-19 epidemic.
Where do you get your moral values from Jim. Actually let me rephrase my question, from what authority to you derive your moral standard from?
As for the Nazi party and Adolf Hitler, those men were not Christians. In fact the Pope/Catholicism is who Hitler aligned himself to.
Catholicism is not Christianity, it was the Roman Catholic church who persecuted and martyrd Christians because the Pope wanted to keep control over the lay people. The pope didn’t want people to own a bible for themselves, he wanted to interpret the bible for men and ordered that they should believe he (pope) was infallible.
The human heart is rife with sin, Jesus said:
Matthew 15:18-20 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are [the things] which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
We all fall short of God’s standard of moral perfection including myself. Do you agree that you fall short?
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The first lie in the Bible was by God, in Genesis 3 : 17, when he said “for in that day that you eat from it you will surely die. Adam (and Eve) ate from it, and he was rewarded with more than 500 years of life. 😳
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Thanks for your comment. Sir you certainly don’t understand the bible please stick to quoting atheist. Adam was not “rewarded with more than 500 years of life”.
Originally man was created to live forever but with the entering in of sin man slowly started to die earlier and earlier. This is why we see in the first few chapters we read the words “and he died” from Adam on down because of sin mankind lifespan dwindled down. That’s why people live if there fortunate enough to 80-100 years old. (Genesis 5:5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20, 27, 31, Genesis 9:29, Genesis 11:28, 32, Genesis 25:17).
Genesis records mankind death because of disobedience. In contrast the book of Matthew records life look for the words “begat” (Matthew 1:2-16)
It’s a know fact the first lie came from satan.
Genesis 3:1, 4 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? … And the serpent said unto the woman, YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE:
God never lies. Here’s what the Bible says concerning the verse you brought up:
Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed [is] the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat [of] it all the days of thy life;
If you have any questions about the Bible feel free to ask. God bless.
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First, let me thank you for the entertainment and amusement. 😆
I have been studying the Bible for many years, at my age, probably longer than you’ve been alive. I understand the Bible quite well. It is the desperate, insecure defenders that I don’t understand.
Since Atheists don’t have dogma, tenets, a Bible, hymnals, prayer books or missals, just what “atheist” would you suggest that I quote?? Perhaps an inspirational passage from Richard Dawkins’, The God Delusion??!
I did not bring up Genesis 3:17! The verse that I referred to was Genesis 2:17 –but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.
Did Adam eat from the tree? Y/N
In the day that he ate from it, did he die? Y/N Hint: Genesis 5:4
Did the perfect God modify His Unchanging Plan?
Did the omnipotent God forget?
Did God lie?
Did you lie?
All above questions are rhetorical. Any attempt to “interpret” an Apologetics response will be heartily laughed at, and mercilessly mocked. You know how we ‘Godless Atheists’ are. 😳
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It’s alright if you laugh that doesn’t hurt me, what’s concerning is to see people like yourself on the broad road to destruction. And if you die without Christ then you’ll be eternally lost, separated from God and in the Lake of Fire which is the second death (Revelation 2:11, Revelation 20:6, 14).
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
What you seem to not understand is it doesn’t matter “how long” you’ve read the bible. The real question is ARE YOU SAVED?
A person can read the bible for 80 years and not be saved, in contrast a person who is saved regardless if they came to Christ 1 year ago will ALWAYS BE SAVED.
As for the above verse you don’t understand that God is telling Adam who originally was not subject to death that he would die if he partook of the fruit.
You’re trying to say that Adam should have died right there on the spot. How unscolarly your interpretation (an atheist interpretation I might add) is, if you don;t have the Holy Spirit then you’ll never understand God’s word.
Don’t be upset at me I don’t make the rules God does.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
This instructs a person who’s not saved can’t receive the truth of God’s word because they are without the Spirit of God residing within them.
There is no record of what was promised should Adam submissively observe His commandment regarding that tree, but from the tenor of God’s warning, it may be legitimate to conjecture that there was the assurance of perpetual life on the planet. The negative threat promised death for non-compliance: “in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die”(v17). Thus the covenant was a bilateral arrangement that necessitated Adam’s total obedience to ensure his continued survival.
We have no idea how long Adam’s state of innocence lasted, but Genesis 3 is the sad record of his infringement of God’s covenant; it is the account of the first human sin, described by Paul as “disobedience” (Rom 5:19). The rebellious act was preceded by the duplicity of the serpent, with the insinuation that God would never implement the punitive side of His covenant: “Ye shall not surely die” (Gen 3:4). This resulted in the deception of Eve (2Cor 11:3; 1Tim 2:14). This latter Scripture insists that “Adam was not deceived”; thus his act was one of deliberate defiance – the terms of the covenant had been breached.
Hope this helps you a little more in understanding what the text is actually saying. Thanks and God bless.
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😆 😆 😆
I was afraid that this would be a one-act comedy, but I’m thrilled to see that it is a continuing series.
My spastic old hands produced a typo. Instead of entering Genesis 2:17, I typed Genesis 3:17. Even though I quoted the verse, you didn’t seem to know one from the other..
First you accused me of not knowing the Bible. When that was quickly disproven you now retaliate with your interpretation of how I must act, to be saved, as if your opinion carries any weight.
The ‘inerrant’ Bible clearly states that Adam will die “in that day.” Genesis 5:4 says “Then the days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were eight hundred years.” This is not my interpretation. If you believe otherwise, it is your “unscholarly” interpretation (a word you apparently can’t spell). God may make the laws, but you expend a lot of energy interpreting and applying them.
BTW: Former joke aside – I believe in a God – just not the one that you describe and define. 😯
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I do know the difference but I gave you the proper answer. It’s obvious you don’t know the Bible, I’m not “retaliating” I’m just speaking the truth which you don’t like.
If you die in your sins you’ll perish, that’s just a fact you’ll have to deal with. I’m already saved therefore, I have a home in heaven, I’m written in the Lambs book of life. Question is are you?
You fail to realise it’s not “how you act” that determines you gaining salvation, you’re right my “opinion” is not what matters. Its what God says that matters and I stand on His word.
Why don’t you interpret this for me if you know the Bible so well.
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am [he], ye shall die in your sins.
The god you claim to believe in doesn’t exist, you made up a god in your own mind that’s called Idolatry. Which is also a sin.
“…You know how we ‘Godless Atheists’ are.”
Yet you claim to believe in God, crazy world we live in an “Atheists” who believes in God that’s an oxymoron.
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