Silly Things Muslims Say #7 (@legendarygames4687)

Tawhid is Islam’s central belief (one of the 5 pillars). The true meaning of Tawhid means unification, not oneness as Muslims claim, but let’s go with their meaning. Looking at the Qur’an in light of this understanding, let’s determine if the Qur’an teaches Allah is the only god?

In the Bible when God talks He speaks in the first person, words such as “I am the LORD,” “I the LORD,” “I AM THAT I AM,” “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour” etc.

In the Qur’an we don’t have the same, in fact, Allah is the one speaking yet he refers to someone else by using 3rd personal expressions saying “He it is” or “it is He”

Sūrat al-baqarah (The Cow) 2:29

This question asked was: “Allah is saying “it is He”, “that He will cause it to prevail”, who is Allah speaking to if these are the words of Allah? Is Allah speaking to another Allah saying “it is He?””

Here’s a Muslim’s response to this question, watch how quickly it goes downhill.

This Muslim said that because Gabriel (Jibril) came to Muhammad to deliver Qur’an therefore, Jibril used the word “he.” Is Legendarygames4687 claiming that Jibril changed the words of the Qur’an upon delivering them to Muhammad? That cannot be right, no Muslim would claim that Allah’s words were changed, or would they?!

The words of the Qur’an are not Allah’s words according to Legendarygames4687 they are angel Jibril’s words, not Allah’s. This means the Qur’an is corrupted if Jibril switched out certain words.

According to Legendarygames4687 when Allah gave his words to Jibril to deliver to Muhammad, Jibril chose which words to convey and which not? That means Jibril decided what went into the Qur’an Muslims read today.

Legendarygames4687 said the words Jibril repeated to Muhammad are Allah’s words.

In the next comment, he discredits himself saying Jibril “replaced” words, confirming that according to legendarygames4687 Jibril changed words in the Qur’an.

This completely destroys the idea of perfect preservation of the Qur’an. If Allah used the word “I” and Jibril replaced it with the word “He” means the Qur’an is corrupted. And if this is not the case then who is Allah speaking with when he uses the 3rd personal pronoun? It only makes sense if he’s talking about someone else, another god besides himself.

Legendarygames4687 is the Muslim the burden is on him to explain why Allah is talking to another god by saying “He.” Allah even says he’s the best of the creators, which means he’s not the only creator [Surah 23:12-14] according to Allah himself.

Because he has no answers he defaults to the “Hadiths is the work of humans” and can have errors. The problem is that Sunni Muslims pray 5 times a day because of the Hadith, the Qur’an only gives 3 times a day of prayer. So why are Muslims following the work of man when they follow the Hadiths which add another 2 prayers making it 5 in total?

Conclusion

It’s obvious that Muslims cannot defend Islam as things like a god who says “He it is” cannot be referring to himself but someone else. A god who thinks the sun sets in muddy water.[1]

And has to come down to the lowest heaven to hear the prayers of Muslims[2] otherwise he doesn’t know who prayed. This shows Allah is not powerful and cannot be god because like Muslims always bring up the argument that Jesus doesn’t know the hour in Mark 13:32, then by that same rule Allah cannot be god.

Muslims contradict themselves all the time, they say in one breath there’s only one Qur’an and it’s preserved, but on the other hand, we found to day 40 different Arabic Qur’ans (Hafs, Warsh, Doori etc.) with different words, diacritical marks and variations in the meaning of verses. And now Jibril has made the decision on which words he gave to Muhammad when he gave him Qur’an.

Muslims come to the real Word of God, the Lord Jesus Christ for He never changes[3] because He’s your Creator, the Almighty God in flesh.

Footnotes

[1] Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): “O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness.” Sūrat al-kahf (The Cave) 18:86

[2] It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “Our Lord, the Blessed and Exalted, descends when one third of the night remains, every night and He says: ‘Who will ask of Me, that I may give him? Who will call upon Me, that I may answer him? Who will ask My forgiveness, that I may forgive him?’ until dawn comes.” Hence they used to prefer voluntary prayers at the end of the night rather than at the beginning. [Sunan Ibn Majah 1366 Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)]

[3] Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

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