Silly Things Muslims Say #7 (@legendarygames4687)

On January 16, 2023January 13, 2023 By Whatsoever Things Are TrueIn IslamLeave a comment

Tawhid is Islam’s central belief (one of the 5 pillars). The true meaning of Tawhid means unification, not oneness as Muslims claim, but let’s go with their meaning. Looking at the Qur’an in light of this understanding, let’s determine if the Qur’an teaches Allah is the only god?

In the Bible when God talks He speaks in the first person, words such as “I am the LORD,” “I the LORD,” “I AM THAT I AM,” “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour” etc.

In the Qur’an we don’t have the same, in fact, Allah is the one speaking yet he refers to someone else by using 3rd personal expressions saying “He it is” or “it is He”

This question asked was: “Allah is saying “it is He”, “that He will cause it to prevail”, who is Allah speaking to if these are the words of Allah? Is Allah speaking to another Allah saying “it is He?””

Here’s a Muslim’s response to this question, watch how quickly it goes downhill.

This Muslim said that because Gabriel (Jibril) came to Muhammad to deliver Qur’an therefore, Jibril used the word “he.” Is Legendarygames4687 claiming that Jibril changed the words of the Qur’an upon delivering them to Muhammad? That cannot be right, no Muslim would claim that Allah’s words were changed, or would they?!

The words of the Qur’an are not Allah’s words according to Legendarygames4687 they are angel Jibril’s words, not Allah’s. This means the Qur’an is corrupted if Jibril switched out certain words.

According to Legendarygames4687 when Allah gave his words to Jibril to deliver to Muhammad, Jibril chose which words to convey and which not? That means Jibril decided what went into the Qur’an Muslims read today.

Legendarygames4687 said the words Jibril repeated to Muhammad are Allah’s words.

In the next comment, he discredits himself saying Jibril “replaced” words, confirming that according to legendarygames4687 Jibril changed words in the Qur’an.

This completely destroys the idea of perfect preservation of the Qur’an. If Allah used the word “I” and Jibril replaced it with the word “He” means the Qur’an is corrupted. And if this is not the case then who is Allah speaking with when he uses the 3rd personal pronoun? It only makes sense if he’s talking about someone else, another god besides himself.

Legendarygames4687 is the Muslim the burden is on him to explain why Allah is talking to another god by saying “He.” Allah even says he’s the best of the creators, which means he’s not the only creator [Surah 23:12-14] according to Allah himself.

Because he has no answers he defaults to the “Hadiths is the work of humans” and can have errors. The problem is that Sunni Muslims pray 5 times a day because of the Hadith, the Qur’an only gives 3 times a day of prayer. So why are Muslims following the work of man when they follow the Hadiths which add another 2 prayers making it 5 in total?

Conclusion

It’s obvious that Muslims cannot defend Islam as things like a god who says “He it is” cannot be referring to himself but someone else. A god who thinks the sun sets in muddy water.^[1]

And has to come down to the lowest heaven to hear the prayers of Muslims^[2] otherwise he doesn’t know who prayed. This shows Allah is not powerful and cannot be god because like Muslims always bring up the argument that Jesus doesn’t know the hour in Mark 13:32, then by that same rule Allah cannot be god.

Muslims contradict themselves all the time, they say in one breath there’s only one Qur’an and it’s preserved, but on the other hand, we found to day 40 different Arabic Qur’ans (Hafs, Warsh, Doori etc.) with different words, diacritical marks and variations in the meaning of verses. And now Jibril has made the decision on which words he gave to Muhammad when he gave him Qur’an.

Muslims come to the real Word of God, the Lord Jesus Christ for He never changes^[3] because He’s your Creator, the Almighty God in flesh.

Footnotes

[1] Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): “O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness.” Sūrat al-kahf (The Cave) 18:86

[2] It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “Our Lord, the Blessed and Exalted, descends when one third of the night remains, every night and He says: ‘Who will ask of Me, that I may give him? Who will call upon Me, that I may answer him? Who will ask My forgiveness, that I may forgive him?’ until dawn comes.” Hence they used to prefer voluntary prayers at the end of the night rather than at the beginning. [Sunan Ibn Majah 1366 Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)]

[3] Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Qur’ān Contradiction How many Angels Appeared to Mary?(Q19:17, 3:42)

On August 8, 2022July 24, 2022 By Whatsoever Things Are TrueIn IslamLeave a comment

Here we are again to expose the contradictions in the Qur’ān. According to the two ayats below are two different accounts regarding the same event. We know that angel Jibril (“Gabriel”) came to Maryam to announce she would have a son (Isa) in Surah Maryam.

19:17 … Then We sent to her Our Angel, and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man. In the Arabic text the word (رُوحَنَا) is “Our Spirit” rūḥanā singular.

The verse is very clear only Jibril visited Maryam to give her the news of a son. Right? Wrong! The following verse says the angels came to Maryam to bring her the news of a son. More than one angel?!

3:42 … when the angels said, “O Mary, indeed Allah has chosen you …

What’s going on here we clearly have a contradiction, in one verse it says there was 1 angel who came to Maryam, and another verse that says it was multiple angels.^[1]

Conclusion

It’s apparent that the Qur’ān is riddled with contradictions, Muhammad couldn’t remember what he said before and busted himself. I would like to hear a Muslim explain this clear contradiction in the Qur’ān. And just to be clear even their own scholars contradict themselves in the Tafsir.

Footnotes

[1] angels plural, religion : an order of angels Merriam-Webster. (n.d.). Angel. In Merriam-Webster.com dictionary. Retrieved July 19, 2022, from https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/angel

Angel Jibril is Allah in Islam

On April 18, 2022July 4, 2022 By Whatsoever Things Are TrueIn IslamLeave a comment

If you ask a Muslim who is the Holy Spirit (Ruh al-Qudus), they would reply emphatically angel Jibril.¹ They claim that the words “Our Spirit” found in Surah Al-Anbya 21:91 in reference to Isa being created in Mary’s womb means Jibril. That’s fine we’ll go with this Muslim belief.

Jibril Created Adam?

Muslims say Allah created Adam, they enjoy bringing this up when we ask about Allah creating Isa (Jesus), they claim both were created exactly the same. This is not true as Adam was created by clay while Isa was not! In Surah Sad 38:72 Allah says:

Notice Allah breathed into him (Adam) of “My spirit” if Muslims want to interpret “spirit” as in this is Jibril does this mean angel Jibril created Adam also? Going to the Tafsir to see what their scholars say about this ayat is paramount.

Ibn Abbas says Allah placed in Adam “My spirit” is Jibril inside of Adam,² I thought Muslims said he’s an angel? By saying the spirit is Jibril they are making him more than an angel, according to this ayat Jibril entered Adam and gave him life. I guess Allah was right when he said there’s more than one creator [23:14]. Allah is not the only one that can give life, Muslims are also attributing the creation of Adam to Jibril.

Let’s examine another scholar’s interpretation, Ibn Kathir. He confirms this is about the creation of Adam when Allah told the angels he would create a human. Allah commands the angels to prostrate to Adam thereby committing shirk,³ you can read a past article on this topic (Mushrik Allah the First One to Commit Shirk)

Jibril Created Isa?

The story here is of Allah creating Isa, the issue is Muslims need to make up their mind was it Allah who breathed into Mary’s vagina (فَرْجَهَا, farjaha) yes you read correctly, the Arabic word provided placed in Google Translate will translate “her vagina.” Provided is a screenshot of the Arabic translation, try it for yourself copy the highlighted Arabic text on quran.com (a site made by Muslims not Christians).

Note the deceptive translation of “guarded her chastity” these words don’t appear in the Arabic text as you can see from Google Translate (pbuh). So Allah blew into Mary’s vagina according to the Qur’ān and thereby created Isa (“Jesus”). Hold on but Muslims say the holy spirit is Jibril who in this verse is the “spirit” blown into Mary?

Some questions Muslims need to answer (1) was it Allah who blew into Mary or Jibril? (2) If the spirit is blown into Mary is Jibril inside of her [38:72]? (3) Who did the actual creating of Isa was it Allah or Jibril? (4) If it’s Allah who did the creating then who is “our spirit” in this verse? (5) If Jibril did the creating this would mean he has the same abilities as Allah and therefore if Allah gave him this power that would make Jibril god in Islam.

Allah Accuses the Angels to be Untruthful?

Lastly, in Surah Al-Baqarah there’s the account of Allah telling the angels he’s going to make Adam (mankind). The angels responded, “are you going to make someone who will cause mischief and bloodshed.” This statement is important as we’ll see later proves Allah cannot be god.

Allah accuses the angels saying “Tell Me the names of these if you are truthful” here we have the god of Islam accusing the angels of not being truthful. The angels said Adam will cause bloodshed and mischief. The angels were right because Adam (mankind) did sin, even the Qur’ān tells us this as Adam was kicked out of Jannah for what he has done. Let us not forget Allah decreed (caused) Adam to sin, you can read about it in this past article Allah Causes People to Commit Adultery?

Therefore, the angels knew more than Allah because he accused the angels of not being truthful. Yet the angels were correct and knew something Allah didn’t know, even though Allah decreed for Adam to sin, but he busted himself as Allah couldn’t remember what he decreed.

The ayat [2:35] says Adam and his wife were in Paradise, this of course is taken from Genesis in the Bible. You can read the actual story from the Bible also known as Genesis 3 The Fall of Man. In the Qur’ān Shaitan causes them to be kicked out of Paradise and Allah tells them “Get you down” and they are banished from Paradise.

Here’s another contradiction Iblis (Satan) was kicked out of Paradise before Adam and his wife (Eve), how is it Satan is now in Paradise again causing them to sin? Even though the Qur’ān is a jumbled mess of stories we’re told in Qur’ān 38:71—78 that Allah said he was going to create man from clay. Then the angels prostrated themselves before Adam (by the command of Allah) committing shirk, except Iblis (Satan).

Allah asked him “What prevents you from prostrating yourself to one whom I have created with Both My Hands” and Satan responds “I am better than he. You created me from fire, and You created him from clay” Allah then says “Then get out from here; for verily you are outcast And verily My Curse is on you till the Day of Recompense” he (Satan) was kicked out of Jannah.

Here is the contradiction how can Satan cause Adam to sin while Adam was in Paradise when Satan was already kicked out of Paradise? Remember Allah has created stars to shoot at the Jinn who are trying to get close and hear what’s happening in heaven.

How then can Satan who is a Jinn come back to heaven in order to cause Adam to sin? This is a contradiction because this means Allah was not capable of keeping Satan out of heaven with his shooting stars. It’s sad that there are people who can believe this rubbish.

Conclusion

In this article, we presented the fact that Jibril has been given the ability to create according to Muslims, which means there’s more than 1 god in Islam. Even the Qur’ān says Allah is the Best of the creators [23:14] meaning there’s more than 1 creator according to Qur’ān. This is further proof Islam is not a monotheistic religion as Muslims tell us.

Christians only believe in 1 God [Deuteronomy 6:4] we have a future article coming out that will speak about this Lord willing. As we reach out to Muslims in love calling them to come to the Messiah the Lord Jesus Christ who created all things [John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:10]. We ask the Muslims to bring their arguments and let us reason together, that you may come to know the Lord Jesus and be saved. God bless.

Footnotes

1 “The majority of scholars said that this refers to Jibril (peace be upon him), and that Allah called him al-Ruh al-Ameen, Ruh al-Qudus and Jibril.” (Daqaiq al-Tafsir, part 1, p. 310)

2 Tafsir Ibn Abbas Surah 38. Sad Ayah 71 https://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=38&tAyahNo=72&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2

3 Tafsir Ibn Kathir Surah 38. Sad Ayah 71 https://www.alim.org/quran/tafsir/ibn-kathir/surah/38/71

Jibril was not revealed to Muhammad (Sura 96:1-5) Khadijah told Muhammad he saw an angel

On February 21, 2022February 19, 2022 By Whatsoever Things Are TrueIn IslamLeave a comment

The start of Islam began when Muhammad received Qur’ān in the cave Hira, the traditional Islamic sources tell us that it was an angel who visited Muhammad and delivered the verses of Qur’ān. But did the “angel” ever reveal himself as such?

Certainly, if we apply the same stipulation when it comes to the Bible we’re told that the angel (ἄγγελος) Gabriel (Γαβριὴλ) came to Mary announcing Mary would give birth to Jesus. Therefore we can be certain who this angel was that appeared to Mary.

Notice the scripture says the angel Gabriel was sent from God (θεοῦ), Mary who is the virgin visited by the angel is then greeted by him as he said, Hail (Χαῖρε). Looking at the Greek confirms what we have in our Bible.

In the Qur’ān, we find the same story in Surah Maryam with the exclusion of the angel identifying himself to her. He tells her that she will have a pure boy, this is of course Isa (the Islamic version of Jesus).

Even Mary gets more respect than Muhammad, this angel who Muslims agree it’s Jibril (Gabriel) didn’t squeeze Mary the way Muhammad was pressed like a grapefruit. In Surah 96:1-5 we have the story of “Jibril” coming to Muhammad and violently pressing or squeezing him 3 times.

The Islamic scholar Ibn Kathir in his tafsir tells us that Muhammad could no longer bear it being squeezed by this angel who never said who he was, if the angel never said he was Jibril then how can Muslims tell us it was Jibril?

Kathir tells us that Muhammad would go to cave Hira to worship, this brings up a good question if Muhammad didn’t receive Qur’ān at this point who was Muhammad worshipping? He couldn’t have known who Allah was, this confirms that Muhammad was a pagan just as Shaykh Uthman ibn Farooq said: Muhammed didn’t come from an Abrahamic faith but was a pagan who didn’t know Jibril.

According to Kathir, the revelation came to Muhammad suddenly in cave Hira, the angel said “Read” seizing Muhammad and pressed him multiple times until he could no longer bear it. Afterwards, Muhammad was afraid and ran to his wife Khadijah. In the following explanation from Kathir we’re told that Khadijah took Muhammad to see her cousin Waraqah bin Nawfal who according to Islamic tradition was a Christian, truth is he was not a Christian he was a Nasara. and it was these two who convinced Muhammad that the angel was Jibril.

Neither Khadijah or Waraqah bin Nawfal were there with Muhammad in the cave, how can they with surety say this was an angel and not a demon. Kathir then tells us about the mental state of Muhammad, when Waraqah bin Nawfal died and the “revelations” stopped Muhammad became depressed and tried killing himself multiple times by tossing himself off a mountain.

Confirming what Kathir tells us in the tafsir we will now turn to an authentic Hadith from Sahih al-Bukhari which corroborates this story.

Sahih al-Bukhari 3392 states the prophet returned to his wife Khadija in fear of what he just experienced. Khadija takes Muhammad to visit her cousin Waraqa bin Naufal and he tells Muhammad that what he experienced was an angel. As we see here it was Waraqa who claimed Muhammad saw an angel. No account in the Qur’ān ever mentions this was an angel from Allah.

Additionally, we also have the account of Khadija giving Muhammad a lap dance found in The Life of Muhammad by Ibn Isḥāq on page 107. Here she puts the “Jibril” to a test asking the prophet to sit on her lap asking Muhammad if he still sees him, in-which Muhammad responds by saying yes. Once she gets undressed this entity departs and Khadija then tells Muhammad this is an angel of God.

Muhammad’s entire prophethood rest on top of these 2 people Waraqa bin Naufal and his wife Khadija. When Muhammad was in the cave this being never revealed himself stating that he was Jibril. Where do Muslims get this fabricated idea from because it’s not in the Qur’ān? As we saw in this article Muhammad had no witnesses to his experience in the cave, the “angel” never gave Muhammad a name and lastly Muhammad didn’t know he was a prophet, it was Waraqa and Khadija who claimed Muhammad was a prophet.

It’s not difficult to see that Muhammad never received revelations from God, all of the Qur’ān is made up of fabricated stories from a man who’s mentally ill.