Can Muslims be “Friends” with Non-Muslims?

Our Muslim friends are at it again, we enjoy showing them the truth time and time again perhaps one day they’ll learn that they don’t know as much as they think they do. Either way, we love Muslims and pray for their salvation. And that brings up something quite hilarious.

On their blog, it reads “A Quiet Place in Cyberspace Dedicated to the Search for Truth and Salvation”, this word comes from the Bible as Christians use it to explain the redemption Christ Jesus has procured for us. Why are Muslims using Christian terminology?

Salvation in Arabic is (خلاص), this word was placed in Google translate, note on the bottom left. It mentions that Christians believe in salvation through faith in Christ. In the Qur’ān the word salvation is not used, you’ll find words like successful, attainment, victory etc. Yusuf Ali primarily had translated words like (الْمُفْلِحِينَ) which means “prosperous” into “salvation”, this is a deceptive translation.

Also provided is the Arabic dictionary as you can see the word (خلاص) and its definition. Therefore, we highly recommend that qnBb changes its title to reflect what Islam teaches.

Don’t expect them to change it because they dabble in deception and want people to think there’s salvation in Islam when in reality there’s none. Even Muhammad didn’t know if he would make it to Jannah, but I digress that this is a topic for another time.

The “Evidence” 2 John 9–11 (Surah Ali ‘Imran 3:28)

This will turn out bad for the Abdools, I hope they’re prepared. In their weak attempt to attack Christianity Muslims grossly misinterpret scriptures in hopes to get people to believe in their false religion. The ignorance of Abdools is on another level!

The unknown author of this letter did not mince words regarding associating with unbelievers. A Christian was forbidden to greet such a person or to let him in his house.

Can Christians be “Friends” with Non-Christians?

Internal evidence for the authorship of 1 John:

Incorrect, we do know who wrote 2 John. It was the Apostle John the same one who wrote John and 1 John said:

John 13:23

During the last supper in the upper room before Judas Iscariot would leave the company to betray Jesus to the Pharisees, John was sitting close to Christ, he was an eyewitness of all that Jesus Christ did which leads to 1 John 1:1.

1 John 1:1

The disciple John was part of the inner circle along with Peter and James. The 3 were privy to when Christ revealed His glory on the top of the Mount of Transfiguration. John would have touched, heard, and seen the miracles of Christ personally.

Keywords (emphasis ours): “That which was from the beginning, … we have heard,seen with our eyes, … we have looked upon,our hands have handled, of the Word of life;”.

A clear reading of the Gospel of John along with 1st, 2nd 3rd John and Revelation, John provides evidence that the one named the beloved disciple, also known as the disciple whom Jesus loved, is also the author of the named books.

This known phrase “the disciple whom Jesus loved” materialises a total of 5 times in the Gospel of John. This disciple has a prominent role to the extent that Simon Peter asked “Lord, and what shall this man do?” in reference to the beloved disciple’s ministry in John chapter 21.

External evidence for the authorship of 1 John:

Quotes from the Epistle as being authored by John the Apostle are Irenaeus 1 in his work against Heresies mentions John by name stating that he taught certain principles namely Jesus as the only begotten Son of God, in which the Father created all things.

Other notable mentions are Clement of Alexandria,2 Tertullian, Origen and his pupil Dionysius who argued for the authorship of Johannine works.

If they understood the background of 2 John they wouldn’t make this grave mistake. The background of 2 John is a continuation of 1 John. The context is Christians who were travelling from house to house, in which Christians would gather for worship and fellowship before the construction of Church buildings. The Apostle John was writing to warn of false teachers who were masquerading as Christians and bringing into the congregation erroneous doctrine.

This is the background of 2 John, with that context in view we can now turn to the passage qnBb brought into question.

2 John 9-11

2 John 9-11 explains how if an individual comes and teaches false doctrine (like Muhammad) is not welcomed. These false teachers don’t “abide in the doctrine of Christ”, and what is that doctrine? It’s that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, God in the flesh, that He died for our sins and rose from the dead for our justification. That we can have salvation through the atoning death of the Lamb of God.

As well as the doctrine of the Trinity (Abdool trigger!), hence John writes stating whoever denies the fact that the Father and the Son collectively are the One True God. We are to not allow them to spread their cancerous doctrine in the assembly.3 Nowhere does it speak about not being friends with non-Christians. The Lord Jesus is called a friend of sinners (Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:34) as followers of Christ we are called to imitate Him.

If someone posing as a Muslim at a Masjid was spreading teachings contrary to Islam they wouldn’t be welcomed. This is the context of 2 John, he’s not telling Christians they cannot be friends with non-Christians. Now let’s bring this into the Qur’ān where Muslims are told not to be friends with non-Muslims. In Surah Al-Ma’idah the words from their god Allah says:

Surah Ali ‘Imran 3:28

Believers are discouraged in Islam from taking unbelievers as friends, if they do Allah will not help them. And it gets worse. Allah commands Muslims to not be friends with people who don’t believe in Allah.

Surah Al-Ma’idah 5:51

According to their Qur’ān Muslims are not allowed to take Jews or Christians as friends. It’s plain and simple, they try to add the word “war” etc. This verse mentions nothing about war, it has to do with a person’s BELIEF because they are not a Muslim, therefore, it’s not allowed to be friends with them.4 This is why the Qur’ān says if you do then you are one of them, in other words no longer a Muslim.

Here’s the Tafsir (emphasis ours):

(Let not the believers take) the believers ought not to take [the hypocrites:] ‘Abdullah Ibn Ubayy and his companions [and] (disbelievers) the Jews (for their friends) so as to become mighty and honourable (in preference to believers) who are sincere. (Whoso doeth that) seeking might and honour [by taking the hypocrites and disbelievers as friends] (hath no connection with Allah) has no honour, mercy or protection from Allah (unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them) save yourselves from them, (taking (as it were) security) saving yourselves from them by speaking in a friendly way towards them with, while your hearts dislikes this. (Allah bideth you beware (only) of Himself) regarding the shunning of unlawful killing, unlawful sex, unlawful property, consuming intoxicants, false testimony and associating partners with Allah. (Unto Allah is the journeying) the return after death.5

Tafsir Ibn ‘Abbas

The donkeys at qnBb are unaware the homes spoken of by John are house churches. Christians gathered in different homes to worship and learn doctrine spoken of by the Lord Jesus passed on to His Apostles, and to the disciples. The 2nd Epistle of John is a letter warning the believers of the Gnostics who claimed “secret knowledge”, John was against their false teachings as they denied Christ came in the flesh.

The muta’h boys are arguing for heretical teaching. The Gnostics taught Jesus didn’t come in the flesh, that’s a direct rejection of the Qur’ān as this would deny that Isa came in the flesh. It’s hilarious they quote the church fathers as if they’re saying Christians cannot be friends with non-Christians.

The context is not to fellowship with those who teach erroneous doctrines masquerading as a Christian when they’re anything but. Cults such as Arianism, and Sabellianism are against orthodox Christianity.

It’s in this context the church fathers are read, when done so it’s clear to see they’re against cult teachings not people. Looking at the quotes in light of people like Jehovah’s Witnesses who teach Jesus is not God (Arianism), Oneness Pentecostals who say Jesus and the Father are the same Person (Sabellianism) or Mormons who teach Christ is one of many gods (polytheism).6

  1. Tertullian: “Although we ought to be seeking at all times, where ought we to seek? Among the heretics, where all is foreign and opposed to our truth, with whom we are forbidden to associate?”
  2. Ambrose of Milan: “Since it is written that we should avoid such people, how can we not assume that someone who associates with Arians is also an exponent of their heresy?”
  3. Hilary of Arles: “Here you see an example of excommunication in the New Testament, both from table fellowship at home and from table fellowship in church.”
  4. Irenaeus of Lyons: “By wishing that we do not even give them a welcome, John, the Lord’s disciple, made their condemnation even stronger.”
  5. Clement of Alexandria: “John forbids us to greet such people or to offer them hospitality, which in the circumstances is not at all unkind. But he also warns us not to argue or dispute with people who are unable to handle the things of God, lest we should be taken away from the true doctrine by clever arguments which have the appearance of truth. Furthermore, I think that it is wrong to pray with such people, because during times of prayer there is a moment for greeting and sharing the peace.”
  6. Didymus the Blind: “Anyone who dwells in the doctrine of the gospel and who acts according to its teaching will separate himself from those who think and act differently.”

The Abdools then said:

“… we saved the best for last. Basil “The Great” plainly stated that Christians cannot be “friends” with non-Christians. …”

Can Christians be “Friends” with Non-Christians?

Let’s be clear Christians follow Jesus Christ, not the church fathers or anyone else, qnBb mentions Basil “The Great” (emphasis ours):

It is obvious that those who make friends of people who SPEAK FALSELY about God and who even eat with them do not love the Lord who made them and who feeds them. Instead of being content with that food they are led away into blasphemy against the one who feeds them.”

Basil “The Great”

I guess qnBb likes people speaking falsely about Allah their god. Perhaps they can take a few non-Muslims out to dinner who speak against Islam unless qnBb are hypocrites and won’t prove otherwise?

The “Evidence” 1 Corinthians 5:9–11

Thank you muta’h boys for a good laugh, it was fun! Muslim ignorance rears its ugly head again, 1 Corinthians 5:9–11 is speaking about someone who’s in fellowship in a local assembly. In other words, a Christian who is going around practising sin, as Christians we cannot tolerate sin among the fellowship of believers and the offending party is to be put out of assembly fellowship.

By doing so these sinful practices will not spread to the rest of the believers. As it’s said leaven corrupts and spreads like yeast in bread. The Lord Jesus said, “Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod” (Mark 8:15).

And in keeping in context with 1 Corinthians Paul the apostle said: “Your glorying [is] not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened [bread] of sincerity and truth.” (1 Corinthians 5:6-8).

Garland, D. E. (2003). 1 Corinthians (Ser. Baker exegetical commentary on the new testament). Baker Academic. p. 184-185

Garland in his exegetical commentary on the New Testament draws from the text, that the Corinthians had a problem in the church. There was an incident of an individual who committed incest with his father’s wife, this sin was unacceptable but the believers in the Corinthian church didn’t confront the man, thereby being complacent. Paul rebukes them saying this should not have happened.7

Muhammad on the other hand committed all sorts of sexual sins, he had sex with a minor as a child paedophile (Sahih al-Bukhari 5133), any believing woman can give herself to the prophet for sex (Quran 33:50).

Muhammad contradicted himself because he said in the book of Jame’ Alsag’er (Imam Al-Soiuty), Hadith 2994: “Any woman, [if] she gives herself to a man to marry him without her father’s, or man of the house’s permission, she is a whore”

Jame’ Alsag’er (Imam Al-Soiuty), Hadith 2994

Comparing this to 33:50 we have to ask the question, how can the woman, who gives herself to marry a man be a whore, but the woman who gives herself to Muhammad be a good/pious woman? Challenge give one woman’s name who became a wife to Muhammad by giving herself to him. None of his wives gave herself to him as there’s no such thing as marriage in Islam. Proof Muhammad was a sexually immoral man.

Conclusion

The truth is that Muslims worship an immoral man called Muhammad which means “the praised one”, how can a sinful man be praised? As a Christian, the only One who gets praised is God alone. The black stone smoochers love sin and are hypocritical, these are traits from Satan himself because that’s who Allah is. We can only continue to provide evidence from their own sources, showing them how sinful their prophet is, a man who allowed sexual immorality, lying, killing, extortion and a whole slew of other sinful practices.

We’ll close out this article with the words of their “god” Allah, notice how Allah wants to spread terror into the hearts of unbelievers. That’s not all he wants Muslims to smite people on the neck and cut off their fingertips.

Surah Al-Anfal 8:12

What god commands such wickedness? Allah must love chicken fingers, maybe we should get him a bucket of KFC? Come to Christ our Muslim friends, the Lord Jesus knocks will you invite Him in? (Revelation 3:20)

And Allah (Shameful and Perish He’ll be) doesn’t know best!

Footnotes

1 “Further, they teach that John, the disciple of the Lord, indicated the first Ogdoad, expressing themselves in these words: John, the disciple of the Lord, wishing to set forth the origin of all things, so as to explain how the Father produced the whole, lays down a certain principle,—that, namely, which was first-begotten by God, which Being he has termed both the only-begotten Son and God, in whom the Father, after a seminal manner, brought forth all things.” Irenaeus of Lyons, “Irenæus against Heresies, 1.8.5.” in The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus, ed. Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, and A. Cleveland Coxe, vol. 1, The Ante-Nicene Fathers (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Company, 1885), 328.

2 ”Peter having preached the word publicly at Rome, and by the Spirit proclaimed the Gospel, those who were present, who were numerous, entreated Mark, inasmuch as he had attended him from an early period, and remembered what had been said, to write down what had been spoken. On his composing the Gospel, he handed it to those who had made the request to him; which coming to Peter’s knowledge, he neither hindered nor encouraged. But John, the last of all, seeing that what was corporeal was set forth in the Gospels, on the entreaty of his intimate friends, and inspired by the Spirit, composed a spiritual Gospel.” Clement of Alexandria, “Fragments of Clemens Alexandrinus,” in Fathers of the Second Century: Hermas, Tatian, Athenagoras, Theophilus, and Clement of Alexandria (Entire), ed. Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, and A. Cleveland Coxe, trans. William Wilson, vol. 2, The Ante-Nicene Fathers (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Company, 1885), 580.

3 “Such hospitality was open to easy abuse, however. There was the false teacher, on the one hand, who yet posed as a Christian: should hospitality be extended to him? And there was the more obvious mountebank, the false prophet with false credentials, who was dominated less by the creed he had to offer than by the material profit and free board and lodging he hoped to gain. It is against this background that we must read the Second and Third Epistles of John, for in them the Elder issues instructions concerning whom to welcome and whom to refuse, and why. Genuine Christian missionaries, he writes, maybe recognized both by the message they bring and by the motive which inspires them. If they faithfully proclaim the doctrine of Christ (cf. 2 Jn. 7), and if they have set out not for filthy lucre but for the sake of His name (3 Jn. 7), then they should both be received and helped forward on their journey ‘as befits God’s service (3 Jn. 6, RSV)” Stott JRW. The Letters of John: An Introduction and Commentary. 2nd ed. (Leicester, England: Inter-Varsity Press; 1988), p. 199

4 “Taking them as friends in general terms, taking them as helpers and supporters, and throwing in one’s lot with them. Allaah forbids all this, as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as awliya’ (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but awliya’ to one another…” [al-Maa’idah 5:51].” Islamqa.info (1998, September 10) APA citation. Clarification of the important rule: it is haraam to take kaafirs as close friends and protectors. Retrieved from https://islamqa.info/en/answers/2179/clarification-of-the-important-rule-it-is-haraam-to-take-kaafirs-as-close-friends-and-protectors

5 altafsir.com (2021) APA citation. Tafsir Ibn ‘Abbas. Retrieved from https://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=3&tAyahNo=28&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2

6 Gerald Bray., & Thomas C. Oden (2020). Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture: James, 1-2 Peter, 1-3 John, Jude, Volume XI (Downers Grove, Illinois: InterVarsity Press, 2000).

7 Garland, D. E. (2003). 1 Corinthians (Ser. Baker exegetical commentary on the new testament). Baker Academic. p. 184-185

Response to an Abdool: Was Jesus “Worshiped” in the Gospels?

The Lord Jesus Christ be magnified! We pray for Muslims to be saved by them confessing that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father (Philippians 2:11). Let us now have some halal fun.

Here’s our response to our Muslim friends at quranandBibleblog article titled Response to a Christian Apologist: Was Jesus “Worshiped” in the Gospels? We pray for their lost souls to come to the salvation Jesus Christ has procured for them at the cross of Calvary.

On the Title “Abdul”

Before we get into the main topic, it is quite comical that this obvious fan of “Christian Prince” refers to Muslims as “Abduls”, as if it is an insult. Though it is not my actual name, I am proud to call myself Abdullah, the slave/servant of Allah. The irony is that Jesus is also the “slave/servant of Allah”, as stated in Acts 3:13:

Response to a Christian Apologist: Was Jesus “Worshiped” in the Gospels?

Do I hear crying? I think the Abdools need tissues. The ignorance of Muslims is astounding! To be a slave and servant are not the same. Notice the deception of from quranandBibleblog, they tried to equate the two as if they are the same when they are different.

First Muhammad’s father was named Abdullāh (عبدالله) which means: Slave of Allah, but Muhammad’s father was a pagan so who was he slave of? The meaning of Abdul is slave NOT servant. We’ve just busted quranandBibleblog in their deception because they have no honour and lie just like their father the devil. Our Muslim friends mentioned Acts 3:13 claiming Jesus is a slave of God, here’s the verse:

Acts 3:13

In Acts 3:13 the word (παῖδα) has a wide range of meanings.

Definition: boy, child, youth, usually below the age of puberty and not necessarily male; a personal servant, slave, attendant, with a possible implication of kind regard or close relationship; the word used in the Greek version of Isaiah, quoted in NT, for servant of the Lord.

servant noun: ser·​vant | \ ˈsər-vənt
Definition of servant: one that performs duties about the person or home of a master or personal employer (emphasis ours).[1]

slave noun: ˈslāv
Definition of slave(1) a person held in forced servitude (2) a person who is completely subservient to a dominating influence (emphasis ours).[2]

Christians are servants because Jesus Christ is our God/Master. But Abdools are slaves of Allah because he’s forced or dominated them.

Mark 10:42-45

Jesus Christ said any believer who desired to be great must become a servant (διάκονος / diakonos) which means a minister (to serve). And the one who desires to be first would become a slave (δοῦλος / doulos) to all, once again we got quranandBibleblog busted.

The muta’h boys fail to understand that a slave is forced into slavery against their will a “servant is one who is hired to perform regular household or other duties and receives compensation as opposed to a slave”,[3] while a servant is someone who receives compensation for their services.

Here are points made from differencebetween.com on how slaves and servants differ from one another to prove they aren’t the same.[4]

  1. Many servants lived a life similar to that of slaves, but they were hopeful of freedom after the end of their contract.
  2. Obedience is the essence of slavery whereas service is the essence of servitude.
  3. Anyone offering his services is a servant whereas anyone offering obedience is a slave.
  4. A servant is free to work for the chosen master, whereas a slave is forced to work against his will.

As Christians, we’re not only servants as Jesus Christ Himself said He’s a servant (not slave). We read that in the following verses:

Matthew 20:28
Mark 10:45

To minister (διακονῆσαι / diakoneō) means to be a servant, the Lord Jesus not only gave us the definition of what it means to be a servant He also demonstrated the role of one who’s a servant it’s a wonderful well-known passage the story of Jesus Washing the Disciples’ Feet in the book of John.

John 13:5-17

Not only did Christ say He came to serve, He told believers we are to serve one another, not that we are slaves like the Abdool. Additionally, the Lord Jesus said that Christians are children of God. We have an intimate relationship with God as He is our Father.

A slave doesn’t have an intimate relationship as they are forced by Allah to be slaves, and Christ said a slave (δοῦλος) doesn’t abide in the house forever, but a son does.[5] If they are so proud to be called Abdool then why explain “how proud they are?”

Deception by Abdools

… he tried to protect his Bible by attempting to use the Quran and Sunnah as a shield (i.e., by claiming that both “confirm” that the Bible is true scripture). Instead of wasting time with this pathetic distraction, let it suffice that this issue has already dealt with in a separate article.

Response to a Christian Apologist: Was Jesus “Worshiped” in the Gospels?

In other words, quranandBibleblog is calling their prophet a donkey because Muhammad said that he believes in the Torah and Injil. Are the Abdools ready to say that the Torah and Injil we have in our possession is not sent by Allah? Let me get this Abdool busted.

The Qur’ān says the TorahPsalms, and the Gospel were all given by Allah. But, Muslims claim the Bible is corrupted. If that’s true, then it would seem they do not believe the Qur’ān since Allah says that the Word of Allah cannot be changed:

The Arabic says (وَلَا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمَـٰتِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ) the words “i.e decrees” in the brackets is a false translation as that’s not in the Arabic text. Other ayats which speak about Allah’s words cannot be changed are Surah Al-An’am 6:115 and Surah Yunus 10:64. If they want to continue to insist that Allah’s words were corrupted then they’re saying the Qur’ān is wrong, and the potato god Allah couldn’t protect his words (Torah and Injil).

We Muslims believe that the Bible has been distorted and tampered with by Christian scholars, and it now contains falsehoods and myths that no one with a sound mind can believe. Reading these distorted books is not permissible, except for one who has enough Islamic knowledge to be able to distinguish between truth and falsehood in them, and who reads them with the aim of refuting their followers and convincing them that what is in these books is falsehood.[6]

Learning English by Studying the Bible

And the onus is on them to provide the original Torah and Injil if they would like to say “we don’t have it.” Bring the proof, to say something is corrupted means it would have had to be unaltered to a certain point and then changed. Thereby calling their god a liar.

What does προσκυνέω (proskyneō) Mean?

We’ve said it before countless times, context is key, the issue is that the Qur’ān is a book without context and Muslims lack the understanding of how context is used when determining how any word is to be interpreted. The muta’h boys claim I ignored the fact that “bow down” can be used interchangeably when referring to God or a human of high authority such as a king etc. And while we can agree this still doesn’t change the fact that context should always be used and not only the concordance.

To showcase what we mean by this we’ll take a look at the following verse from the Gospel of Matthew.

Matthew 18:35

In Matthew 18:35 the context is on forgiveness, the Lord Jesus’ disciple Peter asked “how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?” Christ tells them to forgive “seventy times seven.” He then gives a parable to His disciples concerning the kingdom of heaven which spoke of a certain king. This king began to reckon with his servants, one of the servants owed ten thousand talents and the servant didn’t have the money to repay the king.

The Lord was going to sell him, his wife and children and all that he owned. The servant fell down worshipped him asking to be patient and promising to pay what he owed. The Lord had compassion on him and forgave him of his debt. The same servant went out and came across a fellow-servant who owed him a hundred pence. But the servant had no compassion grabbing him by the throat saying pay me what you owe. Having him thrown into prison.

The king who forgave the servant of his debt was angry saying “O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt” and had him tossed to the tormentors because the servant had no compassion for his fellow man. Verse 35 mentions the word “brother” we know through context the word brother doesn’t refer to men only but to females also.

The same is true of προσκυνέω the surrounding context (as mentioned before in my original post) determines how the word is to be interpreted. With that said let’s move on, quranandBibleblog mentioned

“So, the fact of the matter is that proskyneō is not limited to simply religious “worship” given to a deity, but rather “bowing down” to a superior being, even if it was another human being. One could compare it to the angels being commanded to bow down to Adam (peace be upon him), as mentioned in the Quran:”

Response to a Christian Apologist: Was Jesus “Worshiped” in the Gospels?

Again, the surrounding context is taken into account when the word “worshipped” is used. For example in the Bible when a person came in contact with God they realised how sinful they are compared to the holiness of God. In the Prophets (Nevi’im) we have the story of Isaiah seeing the LORD on His throne, the angels flying around the throne saying “Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.”

Isaiah 6:1-5

There’s no mistaking this is God the angels are worshipping, when Isaiah understood who he stood in front of, he stated that he (Isaiah) was unclean a sinner. Why? Because anyone standing before the Holy God (Muhammad included) realises they’re impure in comparison. Hence the reaction of Peter in the Gospel of Luke.

Luke 5:1-8

Peter and his brother Andrew were fishing, Jesus knowing all things gave instructions to put the net down into the water. The same way Isa (Jesus) knows everything you’ve eaten and have in your homes, Isa also created life from clay; this is found in Surah Ali ‘Imran 3:49.

The Arabic says “How do I create for you from clay the likeness of a bird, then I blow into it and it becomes a bird” (أَنِّىٓ أَخْلُقُ لَكُم مِّنَ ٱلطِّينِ كَهَيْـَٔةِ ٱلطَّيْرِ فَأَنفُخُ فِيهِ فَيَكُونُ طَيْرًۢا), it wasn’t Allah that created the bird because Isa says “I create.” Muslims will point out that Allah gave him the ability to do this, which means Allah made Jesus God, thank you very much!

Back to Luke 5:1-8, Peter mentioned they’ve been trying to catch fish all night and found none, he listened to Christ and did what He said.

It was at that time they caught so many fishes the net broke and they asked others to help them pull the fish into the boat, there were so many fish the boat began to sink. It was at this point Simon realised who was standing in front of him and said “Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord” echoing the vision Isaiah saw of God.

Another passage is when Jesus was in the temple healing and doing miracles, the people came to question Him after the Father answered Him from heaven. They asked how can Christ abide forever, and inquired as to who is the Son of Man? The Lord Jesus tells us that He is the Light, the text tells us that even though Jesus has done many miracles before their eyes they still don’t believe. And Isaiah (Ἠσαΐας) is then quoted extensively.

John 12:37-41

This is why the disciples worshipped (προσεκύνησαν (Aorist Active Indicative)) Christ as God after He Walked on the Water (Matthew 14:22-33; Mark 6:45–52; John 6:15–21 ) and controlled nature itself more specifically the sea and wind proving He’s the God who controls all creation (Matthew 8:23–27; Mark 4:35-41; Luke 8:22–25 ).[7] This is spoken in the book of Psalms about how the LORD stills the raging sea. Christ said “peace be still” to the sea and the sea obeyed Him in Mark 4:39.

Psalm 89:8-9

While prostration can be an act of worship depending on the context and intention of the person, it is not necessarily the same thing as “worship”.

Response to a Christian Apologist: Was Jesus “Worshiped” in the Gospels?

Note what was said “While prostration can be an act of worship depending on the context and intention of the person”, now you see the hypocrisy how is it quranandBibleblog says the context dictates the intention. Yet if we say the same they will deny this. In Islam, it’s absolutely forbidden to worship anyone other than Allah, but their god commands the angels and Iblis to “prostrate” bringing confusion. And we know God is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33), once again proving Allah is not god.

The worship of Adam in the Qur’ān was a result of Allah’s challenge to the angels, the angels asked “Will You place therein those who will make mischief therein and shed blood”, Allah then accused them of not being truthful.

Why would Allah command the angels to bow down to Adam, Allah is the first one to commit shirk. We can easily provide proof this was worship to Adam by taking (سُجود) and looking it up in the Arabic dictionary. I’ll provide 3 different Arabic dictionaries.

3 different Arabic dictionaries agree with us that (سُجود) prostration is also worship. We just busted these Abdools once again.

Our friends quoted 1 Chronicles 29:20 thinking this would be difficult to answer, king David’s lineage is the one in which the Messiah Jesus Christ would come. David is not being worshipped as God but he did receive civil reverence. When the Jews worshipped the LORD they did so with religious worship, as to the king they blessed king David in civil homage to the one who was God’s representative.

There’s also another fact we need to mention, the Torah’s text is older than the New Testament. The OT would be written in Aramaic and Hebrew, how many times have we heard Muslims say Jesus spoke Aramaic. Unfortunately for them, the same verse in the Aramaic of the ancient Peshitta text 1 Chronicles 29:20 doesn’t say “worshipped the LORD, and the king”.[8]

The Holy Bible from the Aramaic of the Peshitta

The following is the text from the Peshitta for 1 Chronicles 29:20 “Then David said to all the peo­ple of Israel, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the people blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down and worshipped the Lord, and they also blessed King David.[9]

Sorry, Abdools I know you thought you had something there but you don’t. This makes my point the more clearer, the Abdools don’t understand context as the Qur’ān doesn’t have context but is a big jumbled mess of a book. I mentioned in the previous article Was Jesus “Worshiped” in the Gospels? An unbeliever falling down and worshipping in the midst of a Christian Assembly (1 Corinthians 14:25). This person is not worshipping the Christians but he is worshipping God in the midst of Christians.

I can hear my friend say “that makes my point” Jesus was not worshipped! Not so fast muta’h boy, recall when I said Jesus is the Lamb of God (John 1:29; 1:36). Jesus as the Lamb of God is worshipped along with His Father, Jesus receives universal worship from all of creation. The writer John the Apostle exhaust all of creation saying “every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea.”

Revelation 5:13-14

This is a very troubling passage for Abdools, because Christ is receiving the worship due only to God. Muslims once again show their ignorance of how context is key in rendering Greek words and knowing how they’re interpreted. Falling into the error of taking glosses in the wrong way proves they don’t understand how Greek is used. They make the mistake of taking a Greek word and equating it to English.

[13– 14] “A cascading praise effect erupts, like dominoes falling, where the singing of one group ignites the responsive singing of another. Once the heavenly chorus finishes its choral response to the song of the cherubim and elders, the voices of every creature in creation rise up in yet another antiphonal reply. John appeals again to the three-tiered mythical construct of the cosmos (see the comment on 5:3) to make certain that his hearers and readers understand the universal range of his vision. He hears voices from every realm of the created order, and he hears them singing a song of praise both to God on the throne and to the Lamb. They are both due the blessing and honor and glory and power mentioned in 5:12. And they are due them forever. The hymn of 4:11 has explained the reason why the cherubim and elders believed God was worthy of such accolades: God is worthy because God created all things. In the hymn of 5:9– 10 the cherubim and elders explained the three reasons why the Lamb is worthy. Creation is now apparently affirming those declarations with a responsive chord of acclamation. Fittingly, the cherubim and elders finish both worship scenes by sealing those affirmations with a confirmation of their own. The cherubim cry out “Amen” (see the comment on 3:14) while the elders acknowledge the truth of the hymns by falling before the throne in worship.”[10]

The Church of Philadelphia and Hypothetical Worship

There seems to be a theme, once again quranandBibleblog gets it wrong again! The fact that they think the word proskyneō is “ambiguous” is because they take the word by itself ignoring the surrounding context (emphasis ours):

… the fact that proskyneō doesn’t have to mean “worship” in the sense of religious “worship” given to God alone! It is a much broader word. As stated in my original article, the word is ambiguous enough as to avoid assuming that it only means religious “worship”. …

Response to a Christian Apologist: Was Jesus “Worshiped” in the Gospels?

And he once again runs to 1 Chronicles 29:20 but we’ve already destroyed that argument, the text says they “worshipped the LORD” and “blessed king David” the Aramaic of the Peshitta. The Septuagint (LXX) is the Greek rendering of the Old Testament, let us not lose sight of the fact the OT was not written in Greek but in Hebrew/Aramaic. As for Revelation 5:13, the original language was written in Greek, therefore, the argument still stands.

As for Revelation 3:9 the Greek word (προσκυνήσωσιν) in the Textus Receptus against the word (προσκυνήσουσιν) in the Morphological GNT actually proves my case.

προσκυνήσωσιν vs. προσκυνήσουσιν: Both options yield the same translation, there’s no real difference between the two Greek words.

• SCR/BYZ: προσκυνήσωσιν the verb is part of the previous subjunctive purpose clause and
is translated as a future. This reading is dated around the 10th century.

• GNT: προσκυνήσουσιν is a future-tense form verb, that explains what Jesus Christ will compel them
to do. This reading is dated to the 4th century.

When Muslims perform their salah they “sujood” (prostration) in worshipping their false god, the two in Islam ALWAYS accompany each other.[11] This means when the angels prostrated to Adam they worshipped him according to Islamic prayer.

Nothing in Islam is spiritual because all Muslims have to pray at the same time, in the same way, face the same direction, speak in Arabic etc. This is NOT spiritual, Islam is ritualistic and thereby a legalistic religion as all false cults are.

In Christianity, we don’t practice legalism and can pray anytime and anywhere all that matters is that we’re praying from the heart. In the Bible people prayed in many ways face down, bowed down their heads, in bed, looking up to heaven etc.

Revelation 3:9 προσκυνήσωσιν is a subjunctive using a subordinate clause and the main verb determines the mood and expresses vividness. But notice that quranandBibleblog conveniently ignored the fact that I mentioned in the context of an unbeliever coming to an assembly of believers in 1 Corinthians and worships before the Christians.

1 Corinthians 14:23-25

Notice an unbeliever comes in and “he is convinced of all” and what happens next is he finally believes in God and the result is “the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on [his] face he will worship God”. This is happening in front of the Christians, this man is not worshipping the Christians, the same is true of Revelation 3:9 which the Abdools have no idea of because they lack reading the verses contextually.

Conclusion

Abdools are severely incompetent in understanding the context of verses, this is not surprising as their god Muhammad is the one who brings them confusion, they follow the “god of this world” also known as Satan [Q1:2], [2 Corinthians 4:3-4]. In love, we reach out to these people who are blinded by Satan so that they can see the glorious Light of the Lord Jesus Christ who offers all Abdools salvation. Muslims need to leave the darkness of Islam for theirs no hope in that false religion.

Christians are trapped in a false religion that teaches them to worship a human being as “God”.

Response to a Christian Apologist: Was Jesus “Worshiped” in the Gospels?

Here’s the hypocrisy, their god Allah is a man because he’s compared to a man called Dajjal. Allah and Dajjal look the same but the Muslims are told not to be confused because Allah has 2 eyes instead of just 1 like the Dajjal. You can read about it here in a previous article The Hadith says Dajjal is a man compared to Allah. All the talk about worshipping a human being is what the Muslims actually do.[12]

If Muslims don’t worship a man why according to the Hadith the Abdools could become confused between Allah and the Dajjal? It’s because the false Messiah Dajjal is being compared to Jesus the real Messiah (Isa the fake Jesus).

Christians believe God became a Man, not that man became God. Therefore, their god lacks the ability to become a man as he is powerless. How can anyone worship a god who needs a girlfriend to have a son, cannot become a man, can’t enter his creation and has to come down to the lowest heaven each night to hear the Muslim’s prayers? Allah is no more than a pagan idol that Abdools worship. We still love the Muslims and call them to the glorious Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.[13]

Futher Reading

Q24:27 scribal error: A thorough analysis

Can We Trust the Koranic View of Jesus: A Debate

Is Jesus God? Does the Bible Say Jesus Is God?

Footnotes

[1] Merriam-Webster. (n.d.). Servant. In Merriam-Webster.com dictionary. Retrieved March 13, 2022, from https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/servant

[2] Merriam-Webster. (n.d.). Slave. In Merriam-Webster.com dictionary. Retrieved March 13, 2022, from https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slave

[3] Wiki Diff [Blog post] Servant vs Slaves – What’s the difference? Retrieved from https://wikidiff.com/servant/slaves

[4] Differencebetween (2013, July 5) Difference Between Slave and Servant Retrieved from https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-slave-and-vs-servant/

[5] “Addressing those who had begun to believe in him (v. 30), Jesus exhorts them to remain or stand fast (Greek: menein; cf. 15:10) in his word in order to be truly liberated, for their incipient faith still has a long way to go. The truth that they will then know will make them free (v. 32). This truth consists in knowing God through Jesus (1:14; 4:23-24; 14:6) and has nothing to do with human or conceptual knowledge. Taking his statement literally, they retort that they have never been enslaved, conveniently forgetting the sojourn in Egypt and their current occupation by the Romans. But sin itself is slavery (Rom 6), and in order to be truly free, they need to be liberated by a son who abides or remains in God’s household (Rom 7).” New Collegeville Bible Commentary: New Testament, edited by Daniel Durken, Liturgical Press, 2009.

[6] Islamqa.com (2009, March 10) Learning English by Studying the Bible Retrieved from https://islamqa.info/en/answers/129175/learning-english-by-studying-the-bible

[7] “Such is the scene when Jesus appears walking toward them on the sea (v. 25), sometime between 3 a.m. and 6 a.m. (Greek: the fourth watch of the night, cf. NIV). As is typical in an epiphany (cf. 17:6-7; Isaiah 6:5; Luke 24:36-37), the first reaction of the disciples is one of fear or terror (v. 26). They assume that they are seeing an apparition. With Jesus’ words of assurance, however (v. 27), and with the quieting of the sea when Jesus enters the boat (v. 32), fear gives way to worship (v. 33; cf. 8:27). Once again we have a story full of allusions to OT texts and themes. Like the psalmist and others, the author depicts the sea and its turbulent waters as a place of chaos and destruction (cf. Genesis 1:2; Psalm 69:2; 74:13-14). There is a power greater than that of the sea, however, and Jesus clearly exhibits that power. When he appears walking on the sea, the picture is reminiscent of Yahweh walking on or through the sea at creation (Job 9:8; 38:16; Psalm 77:19) and making a route through the sea for Israel (Isaiah 43:16).” Gardner, R. B. (1991). Matthew (Ser. Believers church bible commentary). Herald Press. Retrieved March 16, 2022, Retrieved from https://www-ministrymatters-com.theoref.idm.oclc.org/library/#/bcbc/b08c35e9f5f24be6443986bfeda55497/matthew-111-1620-israel-responds-to-jesus.html

[8] 1 Chronicles 29:20. “David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God — Adore his divine majesty, and give him thanks for all his benefits, hereby testifying your concurrence with me in what I have done and spoken. And all the congregation blessed the Lord, &c. — They did as David desired, bowing down their heads in a gesture of adoration. Whoever is the mouth of the congregation to God, only those have the benefit of his ministrations who join with him, not so much by bowing down the head, as by lifting up the heart. And worshipped the Lord, and the king The Lord with religious, and the king with civil worship.” Benson Commentary on the Old and New Testaments (2017, January 16). How and when to reference. Retrieved from https://www.howandwhentoreference.com

[9] Lamsa, G. M. Old Testament Light: A Scriptural Commentary Based on the Aramaic of the Ancient Peshitta Text; Prentice-Hall: Englewood Cliffs, N.J, 1964.

[10] Blount, Brian K.. (2013, March 07) Revelation: A Commentary, Presbyterian Publishing Corporation, 2013. ProQuest Ebook Central

[11] wikihow.com (2022, January 17) How to Pray in Islam Retrieved from https://www.wikihow.com/Pray-in-Islam

[12] Narrated Ubadah ibn as-Samit: The Prophet (ﷺ) said: I have told you so much about the Dajjal (Antichrist) that I am afraid you may not understand. The Antichrist is short, hen-toed, woolly-haired, one-eyed, an eye-sightless, and neither protruding nor deep-seated. If you are confused about him, know that your Lord is not one-eyed. Abu Dawud said: ‘Amr bin Al-Aswad was appointed a judge. Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) Sunan Abi Dawud 4320 Sunnah.com Chapter: The appearance of the Dajjal Retrieved from https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4320

[13] “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.” biblegateway.com 1 Corinthians 15:1-8. Retrieved from https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+15%3A1-8&version=KJV