Where’s Allah, is he above or below his throne?

Have you ever heard a Muslim say that Allah doesn’t enter his creation because he’s “all-powerful” and “unlimited”, therefore, it doesn’t befit his majesty? At least that’s what Islam teaches, we’re told that Allah created the throne and is above his throne. There’s nothing above Allah is what they would want us to believe.

According to Islam.qa they said:

It is proven in the Quran and Sunnah (prophetic teachings) and by the consensus (ijma’) of the salaf (early generations) of this ummah (global Islamic nation) that Allah is above His heavens over His Throne (as befits His Majesty), and that He is the Exalted, Most High. He is above all things, and there is nothing that is above Him.

Allah is Above His Throne and He is Close to us by His Knowledge

The Qur’ān says in 32:4 that Allah established himself above the throne[1] after he made the heavens and earth.

As-Sajdah 32:4

That should be the end of it, there’s nothing above Allah according to the Qur’ān right? There’s one slight problem because their own Hadith says Allah does enter his creation.

Sahih Muslim 758c

According to this Sahih Hadith Allah descends to the lowest heaven (seven heavens), this means when Allah descends[2] is he above or below his throne? Let’s put it another way, if Allah descends to the lowest heavens and his throne is located above the heavens as there’s nothing above the throne, this would mean when Allah descends he’s beneath the throne and has entered creation because he’s in the lowest heaven.

Then the Muslim claim is illogical because they claim he’s unlimited and cannot enter his creation. So therefore since he indeed does enter his creation he’s limited.

CAN AL-LAH ENTER HIS CREATION OR NOT ?/ WHERE IS AL-LAH ?/ AL-LAH’S FAKE DESCEND/ DOUBT IN ISLAM

Here’s a video courtesy of BEWITCHED prophet of Islam in this video there was a debate between Jake the Muslim Metaphysician and Dr. Khalil Andani where the question of where’s Allah? Was raised and Jake was dumbfounded. As well as the doubts of Khalilullah who had a live stream but wanted to cut it short so as to not cause Fitna in order to talk about this issue in secret with his Muslim brothers who also couldn’t answer the question.

Conclusion

In this short article, we see how the claims of Abdools fail and don’t know what they are saying. As much as they love attacking the doctrine of the Trinity and claim that we have a God who was killed (referring to the cross) therefore, they say Jesus cannot be God if He’s a Man and was killed.

But Allah enters creation according to the Islamic sources as he descends to the lowest heaven, unless Muslims want to be hypocritical they need to be consistent and hold themselves to the same standard they try to impose on Christians. We aren’t afraid to talk about the Trinity with Muslims, but they are afraid to speak about where’s Allah?

May many Muslims have their eyes opened to the truth which is Jesus Christ is God, and they need to reject Muhammad leave Islam and have faith in Jesus Chirst for Eternal Life.

Footnotes

[1] The Kursiy is the footstool of the Most Merciful, according to the most correct of the scholarly opinions on the matter. The ‘Arsh (Throne) is the greatest of all things that Allaah has created, over which our Lord rose in  a manner that befits His Majesty. It has pillars and is carried by bearers who are angels of immense size. Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (2000, July 30). What is the difference between the ‘Arsh of the Lord and His Kursiy?. Retrieved from https://islamqa.info/en/answers/9566/what-is-the-difference-between-the-arsh-of-the-lord-and-his-kursiy

[2] Definition of descend to pass from a higher place or level to a lower one // descended from the platform Merriam-Webster. (n.d.). Descend. In Merriam-Webster.com dictionary. Retrieved July 11, 2022, from https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/descend