Silly things Muslims say # 1 (T.M. Guiapar)

Have you ever come across comments from Muslims as they say the most insane lies against the Bible? Well, we’re going to start showcasing these comments here and responding to them. The first is from a Muslim who rejects there was ever a verse in the Qur’ān for breastfeeding adults.

This Muslim is unaware of the verse Aisha had with her under her pillow, this was after Muhammad’s death and is recorded in Sunan ibn Majah 1944 and is graded Hasan which means it’s a good reliable hadith. Here’s the chain of narrators in case Muslims claim this is a “weak hadith” even though is graded, Hasan.

Here’s the chain: Abu Salama, Yahya ibn Khalef, told us, Abd al -Alali, on the authority of Muhammad ibn Ishaq, on the authority of Abdullah ibn Abu al-Bakr.

Sunan Ibn Majah 1944

It’s clear in the hadith Aisha says it was a verse revealed from Allah to Muhammad about breastfeeding and adult 10 times. But the Abdool in the above comment said: “What? Recite the verse for adult breastfeeding? I am not surprised why the Christians dont know what it means verse. Sunnah is not verse..”

His claim is that because this is a Sunnah that it’s not a verse, he contradicts his prophet because Sunnah is the sayings of Muhammad. And the Hadith right before your eyes says “The verse” which means at one time in Muhammad’s life this verse was revealed and should be in the Qur’ān but it’s nowhere to be found.

There goes the Qur’ān’s perfect preservation theory. He then runs from the embarrassment of his prophet to the Bible and wrenches verses out of their context without understanding the verse. We love spanking Abdoools with the truth, therefore, let’s dive into the 2 verses he brought up.

1 Corinthians 5:1-3

The background to Corinthians was the church which was established in Corinth was committing acts contrary to what the apostles taught. Paul heard what was happening at the assembly there and sent them a letter rebuking the practises they were indulging in, in this verse namely fornication and contentedness with sin.

1 Corinthians 5:1

Paul in this verse was saying the fornication which is happening among you is so horrible that not even unbelieving Gentiles are committing such acts. This was a strong rebuke, but T.M. Guiapar would like to believe this was a teaching condoned in the Bible. He obviously didn’t read the verse or the surrounding text on purpose, this is the typical tactic Muslims employ.

If he would have read the next 2 following verses he would have seen Paul was against the fornication of this man and told the believers in Corinth to have him excommunicated.

1 Corinthians 5:2-3

Paul says they are “puffed up” he then says this person needs to “be taken away from among you”. In verse 3 Paul says he has already judged this man concerning this deed he committed. Why didn’t T.M. Guiapar look at these verses? It’s because Muslims like to lie just like their prophet Muhammad.

Genesis 19:32

Here’s another verse Muslims run to claiming the Bible teaches incest, anyone who reads the Bible knows that it records that mankind sins. None of the prophets was sinless as Islam teaches, and therefore, while God used broken men to deliver His message these men and women were sinners just like you and me.

The unfortunate story of Lot and his daughters was a direct result of sin, the result of this sin was the birth of two rival nations (Moab, Ammon) of Israel. It’s not a teaching but a learning lesson of what we are not to do.

Genesis 19:32

God never wanted Lot’s daughters to have intercourse with their father, unlike Allah who had his “prophet” Muhammad have intercourse with a 9-year-old girl (Aisha). As well as the teachings of the Qur’ān which say it’s ok to have intercourse with prepubescent girls.

Surah At-Talaq 65:4

According to their scholars, this verse has 3 groups of women in view, the context is of making certain that when a Muslim man divorces his wife that she’s not pregnant. He has to wait 3 months before he can leave her.

Surah At-Talaq 65:4 Tafsir

Notice the words “because of their young age” these are little girls who aren’t getting their period yet. Even the scholars of Islam expose the false prophet Muhammad, how can anyone follow a child paedophile who teaches sexual intercourse with minors?

Conclusion

Our friend T.M. Guiapar is severely deceived and is in dire need of salvation. We can only pray for him and other Muslims that they realise the evil man they believe in is leading them to hell and not paradise. May the grace of God open their eyes and they come in droves to Jesus Christ the One who never sinned and is Perfect because He is God in the flesh.

Footnotes

[1] The denouement of the Lot story is inglorious, to say the least. At the end we feel that Sodom had no righteous citizens whatever! The Yahwist uses the departure of Lot and his daughters from the stage as an occasion to besmirch the origins of two of the peoples whose territories bordered the kingdom of David and Solomon on the east. As in the case of Ham, the father of Canaan (9:20-27), drunkenness and illicit sex are the media of contempt. After this tale, Lot and his daughters play no further role in the history of salvation. Ironies abound in this story. Lot’s two daughters, apparently unworthy even to be introduced by name, are worried that they will never find a suitable man and never bear children. So they do unto their father that which he was prepared to have them do with strangers (see 19:8). They rape their father on two successive nights, and they both become pregnant. Towner, W. S. (2001). Genesis (1st ed., Ser. Westminster bible companion). Westminster John Knox Press.

Watchtower God’s Visible Organization?

Watchtower Quotes

The men of that governing body, like the apostles and older men in Jerusalem, have many years of experience in God’s service. But they do not rely on human wisdom in making decisions. No, being governed theocratically, they follow the example of the early governing body in Jerusalem, whose decisions were based on God’s Word and were made under the direction of holy spirit.

Watchtower Online Library — God’s Visible Organization You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth

What of Jehovah’s Christian channel of communication today? Which of the hundreds of sects and denominations of those who claim to be Christian is Jehovah’s spokesman today in the earth as his divinely appointed and organized channel ofcommunication?

Watchtower Online Library — Christian Channel of Communication: TWELVE REQUIREMENTS FOR CHRISTIAN CHANNEL TODAY

The evidences, therefore, are overwhelming that the anointed Christian remnant among Jehovah’s witnesses today comprise the collective channel of communication.

Watchtower Online Library — Christian Channel of Communication: KEEP IN CLOSE TOUCH WITH CHANNEL

Question For The Jehovah’s Witness

If God always had a “visible organization on earth” then when did it start? Was the organization always there or did it start in the 1870s when Charles Taze Russell formed the “Bible Students” and later was carried on by Joseph Franklin Rutherford on January 6, 1917?

If this was the beginning of “Jehovah’s visible organization” was Jehovah without any witnesses for 2000 years? And there was an organization before Russell came why didn’t he just join them, why start his own organization?

Jehovah’s Witnesses originated as a branch of the Bible Student movement, which developed in the United States in the 1870s among followers of Christian Restorationist minister Charles Taze Russell. Bible Student missionaries were sent to England in 1881 and the first overseas branch was opened in London in 1900.

History of Jehovah’s Witnesses — Wikipedia

These are the deceptions of cults they allure unsuspecting individuals by grandiose claims. Please note in the first quote are comparing themselves to the apostles. Men who were divinely inspired through the Holy Spirit, men who the Lord Jesus ordained to preach the Gospel and do works which testified of the Lord Jesus, not an “organization”.

Matthew 10:5-8 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

It’s interesting isn’t it? Just a little something to get you thinking. If you’d like more information on the Watchtower’s history please take a look at this documentary on the Watchtower’s beginnings.